Friday, April 3, 2009

Dem gays in Iowa...

Are getting married?!


(From the DeMoines Register):
The Iowa Supreme Court this morning unanimously upheld gays’ right to marry.

“The Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution,” the justices said in a summary of their decision.

. . . . Richard Socarides, a former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton on gay civil rights, said today’s decision could set the stage for other states. Socarides was was a senior political assistant for Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin in the early 1990s.

“I think it’s significant because Iowa is considered a Midwest sate in the mainstream of American thought,” Socarides said. “Unlike states on the coasts, there’s nothing more American than Iowa. As they say during the presidential caucuses, 'As Iowa goes, so goes the nation.’”

. . . . “One could easily argue, and we do, that fostering same-sex marriage will harm the institution of marriage as we know it,” [Assistant Polk County Attorney Roger] Kuhle said. “It’s not going to happen tomorrow. We’re not going to see any changes tomorrow, next week, next year, in our generation. But you’ve got to look to the future.”

Kuhle said state support for same-sex marriage would teach future generations that marriage is no longer about procreation despite thousands of years of history.
*Ahem*

Fuck you, Kuhle. And congratulations, LiturgyGeek!!!!! Who ever thought we'd live in a world where you could get gay married in Iowa, but not in California?

16 comments:

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LiturgyGeek said...

Thanks, Jocelyn!!! The best part about all this is that the decision was UNANIMOUS!!! Today I am totally praising God...my clergy colleague Matt said, "Easter came early this year." Indeed.

Will update you on the rally and will post my prayer/speech/whatev when I get it done...which may be never because I am so excited I can barely breathe!!!!!

Jocelyn said...

Anonymous - your link did not work for me.

LiturgyGeek - I am so, so proud of and happy for you. I always thought Iowa was a really cool state.

Hannah said...

I think my husband has never been so proud to be from Iowa as he is this morning! We are overjoyed! I am out of words - there just aren't any to do justice to the joy in my heart today. Congratulations to you, LiturgyGeek and to all Iowans!

Hannah said...

Ok, this is slightly off topic but this stupid procreation argument has really been bugging me for a while. I've been thinking about my wedding, specifically about the vows we took standing in front of the altar in a beautiful Catholic Church. In the statement of intentions we both said that we would accept children from God but we never said that we were getting married for the sole purpose of making babies. In fact, in the actual vows we said we would "love, honor and cherish" each other "all the days of our life". Nothing about babies. As if that isn't enough, in our Pre-Cana classes they taught us that the marriage relationship is primary, even more important than relationships you might have with your children. and there's a lot more in the Rite about the definition of marriage, etc. The Catholic Church itself made sure that my beloved and I know that our marital relationship is more important than making babies.

Anyone who knows anyone who married because they were pregnant knows that very few marriages last when they are entered into for the sole purpose of procreation. And seriously, any married person should know that there is a lot more to a marriage than just sex. Whew! I feel better now.

Jocelyn said...

Hannah, I really wish I could understand the right's true motivation behind all their bigotry, because their arguments involve so much flawed logic, contradiction, and hypocrisy that they must have other reasons to do the things they do. Right?

Or are they just retarded?

Hannah said...

I think you nailed it, Jocelyn. They are so obstinant in their hatred and intolerance. And probably a little retarded. I'll never undertand it, I just wasn't raised that way. It's so stupid!

Alexah said...

I agree with your closing statement, Jocelyn. I never, ever, ever would have imagined that Iowa would be down with gay knots being tied before California.

This is some great news. It almost feels like the wheels are in motion.

Jocelyn said...

I'm pretty sure we can all now say with great certainty that the wheels are most definitely in motion.

Phoebe said...

I can explain this. They point to the children thing as a sort of proxy for "wholesome love" as opposed to the perv-lust the sick homos have. It all boils down to the fact that they cannot wrap their heads around the fact that homo-love is the same as hetero-love, just with the gender flip. That's because they think of all people as basically hetero, and the 'mos just have this freaky gross [to them] fetish, like necrophilia. That's why they keep invoking bestiality and polygamy as "the next step" - they don't get that this is the same union between two people who love each other. A love that is every bit as real as theirs. That is the part they cannot get. They need to see and know more gay married people. Or maybe just have some out gay friends. When all you know is closet freaks like Larry Craig, of course you're going to think they're crazy and tragic. Larry Craig probably doesn't believe he could ever feel real love for a man, just glory hole compulsions.

The world is getting smaller, these people are going to come around and/or die off, and things will just continue to chip away at the block of stupid until it finally collapses. Like global warming melting ice caps, except good not bad.

Dean P said...

I cannot take such empty statements as "it's going to harm the institution of marriage," without a single factual example of how it's going to do just that. And really, are these people such myopic tools that they can't in fact notice that none of the horrible parade of awefuls they keep forecasting haven't happened in Canada, Massachusetts, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norwary, Spain, Sweden, or South Africa??

LiturgyGeek said...

You people are awesome. Hannah, as always you are thoughtful and incisive. April 24, anyone?

Jocelyn said...

Phoebe - I think the problem these people have is their creepy, puritanical ideas about the inherently evil nature of sex. At least with hetero sex, they can all pretend they're doing it for the babies. But gay sex, because there is no practical excuse for it, is inherently lustful and wrong.

Obviously, I don't agree with that idea at all (personally, I'm pretty glad Eve ate the apple, if you know what I'm sayin'), but I suspect that's where they're coming from. Hopefully they get over it. Sex is good times.

Dean - They already have gay marriage where I live, and marriages here are just as shitty as they are everywhere else.

LiturgyGeek - Is that the day we can all get gay married in your church? :)

LiturgyGeek said...

It sure is. Come on down and get gay married!

Jocelyn said...

To be fair, I already can get gay married where I live. My roommate and I have discussed it, but we both imagined marriage to include more sex than we generally have with each other, which is none.

Hannah said...

Jocelyn, that sounds like marriage with a baby. The baby being there to remind you that you once had sex. Kidding...mostly.

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